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Nintex Newbie

Re: Universal Forms for On Prem

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Hi,

 

Is there any update on the availability of universal forms for SP2016 on prem?


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Ben

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Re: Universal Forms for On Prem

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Hi @tachi ,

 

Still in development. We dont have a release date as yet.

 

New responsive (Universal Forms) for Office365 is due to be released very soon.


Cheers,

Euan

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Hi Euan, can you help me understand how the eventual introduction of Universal Forms for on prem will impact existing forms created in Classic? I am trying to locate documentation or a roadmap that will spell out the plan for ongoing Classic forms support. We've recently implemented Nintex and are trying to understand whether we should be avoiding creating Classic forms  but specific detail has been hard to locate.

 

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Scott.

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Hi @Poisco,

 

We are continuing to support Classic forms and has no end-of-support at this stage. We are still really interested to know what people would use Classic for over the New Responsive Designer.

 

However, as the New Responsive Designer is the same engine across Nintex Workflow Cloud, Office365, Nintex Mobile and soon SharePoint; it is far more efficient for us to bring new functionality to the new designer only.

 

So, my question is, what functionality would you like to see appear in the New Responsive Designer from Classic?

 

Cheers,

Euan

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Thanks very much for the info on Classic forms future support. We've only just begun using the product but so far we've been directed to use Classic forms if utilizing Nintex Live and have also found Classic is necesary for customization (e.g custom button functionality) using javascript.

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Hi @Poisco,

 

Yes, if you are requiring Nintex Live, you will still need to use Classic.

 

Regarding your button functionality, what could we add to our product so you didnt require JavaScript?

 

Cheers,

Euan

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@EuanGamble - Hey!  Hope you're well...

Am I correct in thinking that when Universal forms come to on-prem the migration to a newer on-prem version or O365 will be seemless?  Sharegate suggests they don't support migration of Responsive forms and I am trying to work out what to offer users who currently use InfoPath without creating any (more) technical debt before we migrate platforms.

https://support-desktop.sharegate.com/hc/en-us/articles/115000641648-Copy-Nintex-Forms 

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Hi @cassymfreeman,

 

So at the moment we are currently working on bringing New Responsive (Universal Forms) to on-prem and is progressing well. Along with this, we are looking at an in-product conversion from the Old Responsive to New Responsive so customers can choose when to convert each form.

 

Further to this, since it is the same engine, we will be supporting the ability to export a New Responsive form from SharePoint to Office365.

 

Hope that answers your question.

 

Cheers,

Euan

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@EuanGamble thanks for that.  And the export/import would also be supported from say SP2013 to SP2019?  Obviously you can't speak for Sharegate and whether they would support but at least I will understand Migration options.  I know at the world tour Cosima showed the "convert" button so pleased to see that is coming along with it too.  I know people have asked and you said it's hard to say, but are we talking 6 months / 12 months / 18 months here?

We have talked previously about my want to only allow business users responsive and not classic and I am trying to implement this now, but want to do so without having a major headache to deal with in the future for migrations.

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Hi @cassymfreeman,

 

Bit more information for you.

 

And the export/import would also be supported from say SP2013 to SP2019? 

So, Nintex supports the upgrade of our products from 2013 to 2016. With the New Responsive, you could also export/import from 2013 to 2016 using New Responsive as it will use the same engine.

 

I know people have asked and you said it's hard to say, but are we talking 6 months / 12 months / 18 months here?
So far we have the engine working in SharePoint, looking at the different APIs between SharePoint and Office365. Then building any unique features only SharePoint has. We are hoping to have a preview of Nintex New Responsive for SharePoint in a couple of months.

 

We have talked previously about my want to only allow business users responsive and not classic and I am trying to implement this now, but want to do so without having a major headache to deal with in the future for migrations.

We will continue to support the restriction in CA regarding turning off a particular designer, but this will not include permission/group level access to the designer at this point.

 

Cheers,

Euan

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